[Maildev] Engineering Council or Engineering Steering Committee (ESC) - where art thou?

Magnus Melin mkmelin+mozilla at iki.fi
Fri Aug 17 16:57:28 EDT 2018

Sounds pretty good to me.

Regarding scope, I think you misunderstood the intention of the group. 
It's not about decisions in individual bugs, it's about the larger picture.


On 17-08-2018 16:08, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
> Hi all,
> in July 2017 Kent James proposed to established an "Engineering 
> Council" (or it was suggested to call it Engineering Steering 
> Committee (ESC)): 
> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2017-July/005610.html
> Personally I think, since we already have a Council, ESC is the better 
> name.
> As far as I can see, for over a year nothing has happened apart from 
> the establishment of yet another mailing list 
> maildev at lists.thunderbird.net.
> So I suggest to establish this ESC *now* and with the following members:
> Philipp Kewisch, Council chairman and Calendar module owner and 
> frequent contributor
> MakeMyDay, Calendar peer and frequent contributor
> Geoff Lankow, Thunderbird staff, jack and master of all trades ;-)
> Magnus Melin, Thunderbird module owner
> Richard Marti, Theme owner and dispensable bustage fixer
> Aceman, Thunderbird peer and frequent contributor
> Jorg K, Thunderbird and Mailnews peer, bustage fighter
> Patrick Cloke, IM module owner
> Alta88, Feed peer
> Ben Campbell, Thunderbird staff.
> Let me know if I've forgotten someone.
> This is basically the same list as 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Core_Team, but with Kent, Aleth, 
> Aryx and Tooru removed and two new arrivals added.
> The ESC should also be able to *vote* on contentious bug, like some 
> with an ongoing UI discussion which are blocked by lack of consensus.
> Just to make this problem very apparent, I've just closed two bugs as 
> WONTFIX, where no consensus can be reached:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683809 - Quickfilter to 
> find untagged messages
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690644 - Removal of 
> text/background colour in compose.
> Maybe there are more.
> Jörg.
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